Heaven's Lights Heaven's Lights: Jews Arabs - unheard Voices

Saturday, July 08, 2006

Jews Arabs - unheard Voices

I watched this program in Al-Jazeera and I amazed by some facts I never knew. It's excellent documentary shows us the hidden face of what's really happen in the real Israel. I knew that Arab Jews didn't go to Israel by their free will, but have been expulsion by some Arabic governments!. That was awful thing. I know I have bad feelings and distrust to Jews because of what happening to Palestinians, but that's not mean we should be bad to all Jews. Through this program, I watched new picture for the real Arab Jews. They were honest and spoke frankly. They said: when the first generation came to Israel, they fond European people who are not that religious like them, but they kept their loyal as Arab people as they are still Arabs. What happened later that the next generation, who born in Israel became more loyal to Zionism and try to push their connection to Arab world just to be accepted by the European Zionism society. They became more violence and more bloody to show their loyalty to the Zionism and rid of their bond to Arabs. They killed and attacked Palestinians to prove they are not Arabs. The other thing amazed me is that the Arab Jews were more religious than the new arrivals from Europe. Also, some one of them who is Sami Mikhail said remarkable thing about Sadam Hussien as the Zionists claiming he persecuted the Iraqi Jews when he was in power. But Sami Mikhail admitted that he was kind and respect others as he mentioned one incident when the government of Iraq was about to paving new road and this new road will cut a graveyard of Jews. So Sadam ordered to give the Jews people who were not more than 60 person a compensation beside moving all the graves to new place before starting the new road. Sami said the Israelis try to hide the evidences and photos of this event and spread the false image of Sadam as unjust to Jews of Iraq. Then he added: if Sadam was in power in 50s or 40s of the last century, I'm sure no one of Iraqi Jews will be forced to leave Iraq!!
There are many things I never knew before about the life of Arab Jews inside that racist society of Israel. Many things you will be surprise to know about. It's good to see and read about that.

The documentary program has parts. I watched 2 parts till now. There are many other Jews appeared in the 2 parts and I didn't find all pictures of them, the pictures of these Arab Jews I found in AlJazeera Net. Some of them still speak Arabic and some can't, some try to speak with broken language.

Well, I think this is one of the excellent programs done by AlJazeera and I really appreciate that.

Here you are the links of the 2 parts of this program in AlJazeera Net, only In Arabic.

Part -1

Part -2


Blogger allaboutgq said...

Still, the Jews dont belong Palestine. Israel doesnt really exist, except on paper.


- Omar

7/08/2006 8:36 AM  
Blogger I love Munich said...

That is an excellent post Noor - I really like it!
Can you tell me from which Arab country Jews were actively expelled? I never heard that ...

Dr. Azmi Bishara, Noor, is NOT Jewish!! I can say that for sure because I do know his cousin! He was born in an Arab city in the north of the country, Tarshiha, and is a very ardent and for the Jews controversial fighter for Arab rights there in the Israeli parliament, the Knesset! He is Christian, though explicitly secular!
Thanks so much for sharing Noor!!

7/08/2006 10:14 AM  
Blogger Noor said...

Omar, by ur narrow point, u will never solve any problem. Like Arabs in the beginning, they attacked and blamed Europe and Russia for exporting the European Jews while they did the same!
Israel now is Big and more powerful than we, at least has big support from powerful countries, the support is not with taking their side only, but it's more than that. We should be more realistic to deal with many cases and try to control our emotions to achieve our ultimate goals.

Karin Dear. I forgot to mention that. Arab Jews mostly were in Iraq, Yemen, Syria, Egypt, Morocco, Tunis, and maybe from other countries, I don't know. The Iraqi Jews talked about their expulsion by former Leader (Before Sadam). Samir Naqash said about his leaving Iraq with his family and how his mother called her best friend (who was Muslim lady) to say goodbye, the Muslim friend was about to faint. Oh, one of the Iraqis said they sold us in Iraq!
I wish I can translate all what I found in their website. But, I can't :(
Why they didn't put an English texts for non-Arabic speakers.
Oh, Yes, Azmi Beshara is not Jew. I wasn't sure to be honest with you, I know he is an Arabic member in the Knesset, but I don't know if he is Christian, Jew or Muslim. But I always like him for his ability to speak out and challenge others and he is good speaker too.
Thank you too for sharing ur information. -_*

7/09/2006 4:41 AM  
Anonymous the caller said...

asalam 3alaykom,
thank you noor for this post..what i like about it is that it'd bold and different and i like it:)
regarding that matter i know two things for a fact..
morocco..did not force jews to leave..infact they are powerful there and i've always thought they are a threat to that country..

In egypt..things were different..untill this day and although we have been in war with israel till 1973..there are jews among us who are really egyptians and hate moving to israel that's why they were never forced out..
although we are careful with them..cause there history is so clear..

7/09/2006 7:48 AM  
Blogger allaboutgq said...


We will keep fighting until Israel leaves. If it never leaves, we will never stop fighting.

When I say, we, I mean Muslims.


- Omar

7/09/2006 11:38 AM  
Blogger halalhippie said...

Many times in Europe, the Jewish communities have been the victims of all kinds of persecution, being killed off, ecpelled or discriminated. In WW2 The 3rd Reich nearly killed them all.
I cannot but admire their ability to survive. And this has nothing to do with present day situation

Thanks for bringing this post

7/09/2006 4:33 PM  
Blogger Noor said...

The Caller: Thank you, I remember I watched something about the Moroccan Jews, they are still live there and have their own temples and they don't hide themselves. Besides, some of them reached big positions there. As for others, know some Jews who are still live in some Arab countries hide themselves and not showing themselves as Jews because of what Zionists do. But I thought it's not good choice, they should show themselves and declare their opinions like the Jews of Yemen who refused Israel and refused to go there (Well, some of them,, not all of them!).

Omar. Omar, My dear Brother. I like your enthusiasm, but we always talk and say. Like now, people go out in demonstrations against the massacres of Zionists in Gaza. Is that stopped the aggression. NO. Nothing will stop that as long as we - When I say, we, I mean Muslims and arabs still against each other and we agreed that we will not agree. We should fix our problem, free ourselves first and then go to free others.

Halalhippie: you are right. However, through history, I found some unpleasant things done by some Jews and I don't generalize here. But, people still can't trust Jews and erase that image of perfidious Jew. Anyway, the Zionism made it worse by their crimes, as I see, they do worse than what Hitlar did in the past. They execute the same style of Nazis and empty their revenge on people of Palestine.

7/10/2006 4:27 AM  
Blogger Tristan Vick said...

I also believe Issa once said,

“You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same?”

And also,

“For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.”

I think this is important to think about... how our ability to forgive can positively effect our ability to love each other more.

7/10/2006 7:56 PM  
Blogger Noor said...

Nice Tristan. We try to be perfect, close to perfection. It's my passion, but we are still imperfect, God created us to be like that. We still have good and bad feelings. We can forgive but we can't forget. We can try to forget to go on in life, but we don't, we just pretend that to keep that pain and anger out of our hearts. It's not easy to forgive who killed ur family. It's hard to forget the scenes of killing. I remember the ultimate giving of Palestinian family who tormented when the Zionism soldiers killed their boy, little boy without any right. Then, this family with big white great hearts gave their boy's organs to children needed organs to live. they gave their boy's organs to Israeli children needed humans' organs. Can you imagine how great this family with their ultimate giving. Giving the killers organs of their boy, but only to save life of another children. I respected their big giving, but I hoped that will effect the Zionists. NO, they killed more Palestinians and more children after few days. HOPELESS situation!

7/12/2006 2:38 AM  
Blogger Tristan Vick said...

In hopeless situations you have to rely on God.

If you try to take matters into your own hands with cold hearts you actions and words will be cold too.

Love and forgiveness are the only way to make the world a better place.

Is it harder to forgive? Yes! It's always harder to do the right thing and love your enemies, and forgive wrongs against you. But if you rely on God's strength, it can become easy!

This is the power of God's love for us all.

7/12/2006 11:28 PM  
Blogger Noor said...

you are right. we should try our best first and count on God.

7/13/2006 4:18 AM  
Anonymous a Moroccan said...

when omar says what he says he must be:

- an muslim (arabe) who have been tortured in all his senses during all his life watching what the zionist doing to human being in a big part of arab lands and in many holly lands, these facts made him blind and only wanna revange

- a muslim who siply understand things a lot more than a lot of ppl who with the media influence and new life style importend from the west made them think and believe in some things that doesnt exist and wont exist like "civilians" "democracy" "modernity" "tolerence"...theirs are civilians ours are not they are ALMOST democratic with eatchothers but not with us their modernity cant be ours we have our propre custums and our propre civilisation traditions beliefs... they call us to be tolerent with them but they are not tolerant with us

in fact i saw other posts of omar and i think he is one of the both caracters

11/09/2006 9:18 PM  
Anonymous a moroccan said...

my point of view every is every jewish who is living on palestinian land (israel) and who accept to be related to this "country" deserve to be killed of the name of islam b4 any other reason
ps: i live in a country were there are a lot of jews 2 of my friends are jewish and my favorit humoristic is jewish...

11/09/2006 9:21 PM  
Anonymous a moroccan said...

to tristan u call ppl to forgive but sorry you are not logic in ur ideas
We forgive but wen we are stronger wen we have our killers in our hands asking us to do when those criminals wants us to forgive and appologiz not we kept killing masacring our families our children and stealing our lands and properties atacking our religion and our beliefs our holly lands and mosques if u are asking us to forgive theose so tell me what does justice mean???

11/09/2006 9:29 PM  
Anonymous Arab Jew said...

Hello Noor,

i am an Arab Jew. i did not watch the show, i'd be happy if someone could upload it to youtube.

by the selection of speakers though, i can tell you that the show is unbalanced. they picked arab jews with particular anti-zionist slant. it does not present the full picture.

our situation is precarious. we were never effectively welcome in arab lands. we lived in dhimmitude. we knew nothing else until nationalism arrived, but once we have been exposed to the ideas of democracy, we would settle for nothing less. that is what set the inevitable collision course, and the founding of israel changes little with regards to that aspect. 30% of the jews who left arab countries, did not leave for israel. but they still left. why? because they had no other choice.

a selection of other replies:
to i_love_munich: we've been expelled from almost all arab countries - lebanon, iraq, yemen, morocco, egypt, syria, algeria and tunisia. there were no jewish communities in transjordan or saudi arabia.

to omar:
i'm certain you would be happy to have us wander through the world, or rather dissolve into defenseless communities. that will not happen.

to the_caller:
it seems like you still refuse to accept egyptian jews as egyptians, or moroccan jews as moroccan. that's the crux of the problem. even if few do reluctantly accept that, it's not enough to protect the communities and make them viable. in essence, these people stood and watch while we were ethnically cleansed.

to the moroccan:
the farhud happened before a single palestinian was deported from its home in israel/palestine. not that it matters, because arab jews were not responsible for what happened there. but after a month in jail, courtesy of the CID, i think every iraqi jew would become either a communist or a zionist.

7/15/2007 5:32 AM  

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